Three main reasons why I don’t support white people using aave and why I never explain black slang to white people:
You’re almost always going to use it wrong. And even if you’re one of the down (that’s aave) white people who manages to use it mostly right, you are inadvertently giving other white people permission to use it, and they will get it wrong, and y’all literally never correct them, mostly because you don’t actually understand how it’s wrong.
We literally can’t have anything. The second a black person uses a word y’all don’t know in a vine or a song, y’all go through the same stages. First you say we’re destroying the english language, then you turn us into memes to mock us, then you start using the word like you came up with it when, as above, you don’t know what it means. Y’all are literally the “You made this? I made this.” comic.
Y’all make bank (that’s aave) off of our shit. The same shit that we get called ignorant and illiterate for creating, y’all get put on the Ellen show for repeating. You put it on pastel t-shirts and riot grrrl patches and suddenly it’s cute. And we never ever get credit unless it is to disparage us.
Honestly, I’ve given up on fighting this for the most part. Cause I know how y’all are and I know you’re never gonna change and it’s honestly not worth it for me to point out every time y’all do this. I would literally never have time to do anything else.
But trust me. I notice.
White people should reblog this
TBH I don’t think anybody should be using AAVE. It’s, quite frankly, a broken form of English with basically no real regulation. And language NEEDS regulation to be intelligible across many demographics. And sure, I get that sometimes, you need a secretive language. But then why not make your own language like gay people in England did? I believe it was called Polari or something like that. But when you get shit like that Nicki Minaj song “I Beez in the Trap” for “I am in the Trap”, you really have to ask yourself why the FUCK AAVE seems to have no rules. Keep in mind, she’s a black person, so you’d think that if she knew AAVE, she’d use it correctly.
…….yall really dont like to admit when youre uneducated. Just because you lack comprehension, does not automatically mean that AAVE has no rhyme or reason to it. Its beyond you. Its not for you to understand. Youre not Black. So leave it alone. You look silly tryna use Anglo Saxon Logic™ to make sense of BLACK venacular
How are they praising gay people in England for making their own specific language in the same post they’re condemning black people for their own specific language? How Sway?
Clearly There are no gay black people or black British people
And of course none of you actually tried to debunk my statements. You immediately went to “SHE’S A RACIST”, but yet, I’m not racist at all. Hell, when I met my black step-grandfather for the first time, I DIDN’T EVEN NOTICE HE WAS BLACK UNTIL YEARS LATER WHEN SOMEONE TOLD ME. I had no concept of race, I just saw people for who they were. And I still do. Like, if you use AAVE, REGARDLESS of if you’re black, white, OR PURPLE, you’re fucking uneducated.
And when you’re saying that AAVE is a made up language too, just stop please. Polari, my example, is a completely seperate and unintelligible language from English. AAVE is a semi-intelligible mishmash of slang and bad grammar. Again, language needs regulation. Every major language in the world is regulated EXCEPT English. The closest English has are grammar Nazis and dictionaries.
Promoting AAVE as a champion of black culture is like promoting casinos as a champion of Native American culture. It’s fucking stupid, and counterproductive. In fact, using my Nicki Minaj example, according to the usually agreed upon rules of AAVE, it should be “I be in the Trap”, instead of “I Beez in the Trap”. Then again, AAVE’s grammatical feature of the habitual be is completely unnecessary and adds no further ability to express ideas. “He be working” could just be rephrased as “He has a job”.
Also, it’s VERY insulting to say that just because I’m not black that I CAN’T understand black culture. Look, I know that black people are very underprivileged, I know about Black Lives Matter, I SUPPORT Black Lives Matter, and I HATE Blue Lives Matter for trying to shift the narrative away from innocent black people (some of whom are children). Oh, and as long as you’re pretending to be enlightened Social Justice Warriors, HOW ABOUT YOU TAG YOUR FUCKING TRIGGERS NEXT TIME? RACISM IS A TRIGGER, SO FUCKING TAG IT. I UNDERSTAND IF YOU FORGET AT FIRST AND EDIT IT TO TAG IT, BUT STILL. I am the REAL Social Justice Warrior here, because not only am I fighting against prejudice, I’m fighting against stupidity and self-righteousness as well!
“i’m fighting against stupidity and self-righteousness as well!”
bud, you’re losing that internal battle
literally everything you’ve written on this post is a gigantic mess and you’re too far gone to even see it
@alegend45 Okay but like AAVE is a structured language??? Linguists do find patterns and reasoning behind the “slang” and “incomprehensible” language? Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not a valid form of English? It’s literally just another evolved form of English doing what English does best. Adapt and change and absorb different languages. AAVE literally takes the various African languages, the Caribbean and Creole languages and mixes so many different ways of communicating into one form that evolved within a group of people as a way to overcome language barriers and assimilate into a new (and awful) situation.
Oh and the idea that language needs to be regulated and structured and perfected is bullshit. Language evolves to suite the needs of the user and by forcing a language into stasis and rigidity, you force the language to become obsolete. Seriously English evolves so fucking much go open the Oxford dictionary and see how words and meanings change. Someone 200 years ago wouldn’t understand half our conversations today. AAVE is as valid a form of English as American English, as Shakespearean English, and as fucking Chaucer’s East Midland Middle English. I can’t fucking understand southerners when they talk nor can I understand the Pearl Poet without a translator. Doesn’t mean they aren’t using a valid form of communication, it just means I wasn’t raised on that form.
Sincerely,
Someone who actually appreciates the different forms of language and took a fucking class on the history of the English language where AAVE was covered.
Except nearly every other major language in the world IS regulated and standardized. Norwegian is, Spanish is, many languages are like this EXCEPT English. It is you who is ignorant.
Dude. Dude. They tried to do it around the time the French and Italians were forming their languages schools to standardize their languages. They had this idea that language could be perfectible and contained, controlled. We English speakers had a choice, standardize or let it stay organic. We compromised. There’s a reason we can still understand things published 400-50" years ago. We also decided English as it stands couldn’t be regulated because of how conflicting it was across England (see Johnson’s dictionary et al). We instead tried to apply logic to language hence why we can’t use double negatives to denote extremely negative etc etc. We obviously don’t have a rigid structure in place, but anyone who’s written a paper can tell you that we do have regulations for like writing and formal stuff. Our standardizing kinda worked but since English is literally a language that absorbs new languages and was a mishmash of Germanic, Scandinavian, French, Latin, Greek, and some Gaelic (before the New World because that’s a whole new bucket of languages absorbed) it’s very hard to make a standard for spellings but we did (English today is based off London English or East Midland) and we tend towards simplification within English. We have so few verb tense changes its great I hate French because they have like 12 different verb forms. Irregular verbs are left over from OE and seem to be slowly phasing out, it’s kinda interesting.
Dude just appreciate that English has a written form (the “~proper~” English) and the spoken, vernacular. Like my dude, I do not write how I talk (even in text speak and here are the tumblr I type different than I speak), no one does, not even the “standardized” languages. You try and speak proper French to a native speaker you sound like a fucking idiot or an old person. You speak Canadian French (québécois) or Creole French to a real Frenchman you have a huge language barrier, but they’re still in the French family and considered French. English is so widespread, dialect differences have to exist. Mexican Spanish is totally different from European Spanish. Different area= different needs = regional dialects. It’s not hard. Language comes in many forms, the written will always always be behind the spoken, there’s a reason Shakespeare rewrote the English language and it’s not because he made up a bunch of words, no he fucking updated the printed word to reflect the spoken. English is standardized. We just have a fuck ton of dialects and regional discrepancies that allow people to best communicate to each other.
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